[WITHDRAWN] New Organisation Identifier: XI-IATI-KHYBER

Thanks

I noticed that the .edu.pk domain is used by this organisation and other university institutions.

Hence, we can see that this domain name is split between

• Top Level Domain (TLD): PK
• Second Level Domain: EDU
• Third Level: the institution, KMU

Therefore, an alternative approach here might be to follow the domain system that is already evidenced:

• Prefix: PK-ED
• Identifier: KMU 
• Reference: PK-EDU-KMU

Other institutions with a .edu.pk domain could then easily follow this protocol.

I am always concerned about the use of XI-IATI, as it creates yet another bespoke piece of data that people have to remember and maintain

NB: The link provided leads to https://sordi.so/ : Somali Research and Development Institute - which I assume is a different organisation/mistake?

I agree it would be better to find another identifier for the Khyber Medical University. As it's a public institution, there could be a way to construct an identifier along the lines of this proposal:

https://iaticonnect.org/group/7/discussion/new-methodology-identifying-…

There doesn't appear to be an entry for Khyber Medical University in Pakistan's government budget, but there is a code for the Higher Education Commission (p34 of the PDF):

https://www.finance.gov.pk/budget/Budget_2021_22/1_ABS-English_2021_22…

I'm not sure if these codes are stable, however (they appear just to be sequential). It would be good to find out if there is a better source than this budget, and also whether the Khyber university falls under the Higher Education Commission.

The university does appear in this document containing a list of grants to various public institutions, but I don't think the code used there is specific to the university:

https://www.finance.gov.pk/budget/Budget_2021_22/11_4_Demands_for_Grant…

I agree and think country-prefixed identifiers are simpler and preferable in this situation as Steven Flower   outlines.

An alternative as well - Khyber Medical University is listed in the Global Research Identifiers Database (http://org-id.guide/list/XI-GRID) under ID "XI-GRID-grid.444779.d"

Thank you for this Emma - I'll ask Org ID if they would accept Steven's solution as that would enable us to avoid any more XI identifiers.

Thanks for considering this Audrey Migot-Adholla  

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> I'll ask Org ID if they would accept Steven's solution

We should - as a community - clarify this.  The original intention of org-id was that it would be something that different open data standards would work together on.  Hence, I don't actually see the question as being whether this is acceptable for *just* org-id alone, it's more about whether the solution of practical for the purposes of IATI data users, and in line with the strategic objective to achieve a network of data.  For the record: I think it is!

No problem - thanks Audrey Migot-Adholla  

Understand the SOP issue - which I think needs some review in terms of practicality and applicability, for all parties. 

It strikes me that the immediate solution to this issue is to advice the organisation to use XI-GRID-grid.444779.d (if they wish to start publishing soon)?

In terms of PK-EDU - then I feel there needs to be an open discussion about how IATI engaged in the "Network of data" issue --> and how some of these challenges can be overcome.

My comment above got chopped when I posted it, for some reason. I've updated it now.

Thank you all for your comments and suggestions.

In the interest of time, we would like Khyber to be able to publish as soon as they can so in this instance, we've asked them to use the existing Grid identifier.

Clearly there is a need to have further discussion around the identifiers we use in IATI so we'll be in touch to keep that dialogue going.

Audrey